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Just FH all but one pup out of two litters. And still debating whether I keep him or not. Real SOP 95.15 (19.1 SS) - theoretical SOP 95.60. Nice pup, except for the SS factor.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13904707

Thank you Lycaon for adding payouts to my Keesie specialty.

Have returned the favour and added some payouts to yours -- there will some lucky breeders in both shows!!

Just in case anyone is interested, I have put two more boys up for stud duties - $50 fee.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13834833


www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13831254

Update:

I have forwarded 2015 Keeshond results to SD Chronicle. I think they are correct, but someone may like to double check when they go up, in case I got something wrong. I haven't sent the top SOP details, as I think there is now higher than my girl who is 95.55.

I will try and dig out 2014 details for the Chronicle while I am on holidays.




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Last edited by Aussiewolfsister on 3/31/2015 11:33:50 PM

I still can't help but wonder why Keeshonds haven't placed Best In Show yet? I had another Best In Group tonight, this time under Linda Schubert, and I have had multiple 2nd In Show/3rd In Show wins (other kennels too) Despite all of our efforts we cannot seem to take BIS! It's a goal I want to accomplish with this breed so I guess I'm just frustrated

Analeyn

I agree, I got a Best In Group yesterday under Deborah Walker with Star Dreaming. We are getting closer.

I think we still need to get more improvement on some of the other traits, especially feet. A lot of the judges have feet listed as high or very high, and most of the Keeshonds are lacking a bit there. I notice that the feet are improving in some of the lines now.

I am having a bit more "in show" luck with my Buhunds, collected another 4th in show today, but can't seem to get beyond several 3rd in shows with that breed.

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Last edited by Aussiewolfsister on 4/2/2015 3:29:47 AM

I agree. I had another BiG under Maria Mohr a few days ago. But we cant seem to crack the BiS barrier. Although I gotta say, in all the time Ive been a keeshond breeder in this game, this is the closest to a BiS placement we've ever been. I remember when even a 3rd in a group was a reason to celebrate because it didnt happen often.

I've been working some on feet in my dogs (along with Fore and Size, since those three traits tend to be weakest in my dogs).

I just put this boy up for stud, 9.2 in feet and fore.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13838673

Would it be helpful for those of us working on specific traits to have a separate post for "good feet studs", one for "good fore studs", etc? Sometimes I just don't have time to go through every dog listed when I'm looking for a specific trait so I just use the best in my kennel. (Though I did just look through for "feet" studs, 9.2 was the highest I saw unless I missed someone).

That's worth thinking about. I must find a nice girl for your 9.2 feet boy.

Another complete litter FH'ed

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Last edited by Aussiewolfsister on 4/2/2015 9:38:09 PM

If I remember, there were 3 9.2 feet boys up for stud, I used mine since he hadn't been tried yet (and has the good fore), but there were a couple more out there. Of course, I can't remember who!

A lovely breeding breakthrough

95.75 And she inherited the 9.4FQ from her sire!
www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13916961

I also had a 95.60 dog too from a different litter


The highest I've had in feet is this bitch with a 9.3
www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13868803

I will definitely be looking for stud options for her later on.


I think the traits threads are a great idea. Individual ones for Size, FQ and Feet might be useful. But I do think there should be minimum trait requirements. For instance, 9.2 is a standard FQ trait number now, and I only consider 9.3+ to be great. Size and Feet are much the same - 9.2 and above is good.


Analeyn

Congrats on your pups!!

I agree about having a minimum number for those stats we need to work on. I haven't looked too close at all three traits, but I think 9.2 is a good place to start. And as things improve, we can certainly up the standard.

I know it'll help me when I'm trying to do a breeding quickly (with 5 kennels, sometimes I'm in a time pinch! LOL).

I started one for feet, see if you all like it and we can start ones for the other two traits.

I don't have any 9.2 or higher size boys right now. And my only 9.2 fore boy is also my feet boy so I'll list him there too once that one gets started.

Thanks Good thinking for the idea, by the way

I'll start ones for FQ & Size.

I also think that kennels should wipe the post once the stud is no longer available

Analeyn

I have posted mine, will update the post when I retire them.

Congrats Analeyn on your pretty puppies, I am just ever so slightly green eyed

Hi Gypsy - you may be interested in your former boy, Gypsy Winds Keep Playing's first litter from 4 pups, with a 95.20 bitch. Not a top SOP, but not a bad result either.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13918228

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13918229

Those are some nice pups Aussie!

Thanks. I am very pleased with the mother of the pups - Star of Venus. Out of three litters she has produced some very nice pups. The male is her second 95.55 pup.

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Last edited by Aussiewolfsister on 4/4/2015 5:05:08 PM

Latest litter -- all low SS

I have two pups out of that litter that may be useful. If anyone wants either of them let me know.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13923786

94.35 (18.5 SS)

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13923789

93.30 (17.1 SS, 9.5 F/Q, 9.2 Size)

I am just stuck....I can't seem to breed anything show quality. I have a few that I want to use for stud/brood but the waiting game is starting to get old lol

Trust me - I've been there for a very long time and have only just made progress with the 95.75, 95.60 and a 95.55 plus some other 95.40's.. I waited ages and FHed litter after litter after litter so I can assure you that it does break eventually

Analeyn